What spec would a new zs need to be to compete in the current market?

[Harbs]

Forget the shape of the current cars, and there specs!

If there was to be a brand new top spec version of the zs (whatever that car may be based on?- RDX60 maybe!?)- what spec do we feel it would need to have- to able to cut it with the current generation of hot hatch backery!????


Me personally i think it would need to be something like:-

2.0/2.5ltr 4-6 cyl, prob turbocharged.
6 speed manual tranny.
250-300bhp.
0-60 in 6 sec or less.
Top speed of 150mph +.
A weight of 1300kgs max.
FWD with LSD, or 4wd.
300mm+ 4-6 pot front brakes.
280mm twin pot rears.
Reclining bucket seats.
climate cont.
ABS/EBD
sat-nav
cd-mp3 headunit with i-pod link
18"+ alloys.
Xenons/projector headlamps.
No more than £25k.

And most importantly - a well sorted chassis!:D

Obviously that's just a basic spec, but that's around the kinda spec i think a new zs would need to be able to cut it- or be class leader with it's rivals!

Not gone silly with the spec on toys or driver aides- as it would still want to be more of a focused drivers car imo!


What do we think?

Any glaring omissions?:confused:

[DaveZS-X]

dont think the current hot hatches have lsd's ,would be good mod though.

[Harbs]

Wonder why you single that particular aspect out?:confused: :confused:

[shroonie29]

Certainly sounds like a spec that would get peoples attention.2.5 turbo 6pot would be nice

Shroon

[JLD]

If it's a turbo, a 4 pot, 2 litre lump would be ok. Plenty of those around with 300-400 bhp.

[Ralph]

Interesting about the LSD... we've been asked about fitting an LSD (or ATB to be more precise) to a ZS 180. They guy has already had an ITG panel filter, Janspeed manifolds and sports cat. :D

[JLD]

I seem to remember a guy on the old Xpower board having a quaiffe LSD fitted to his ZS180 around 4/5 years ago.

[Byron]

The only 2.0ltr turbo with a lsd fitted is the megane 230 f1 sport.

I recon that all that spec that Harb's as put together could be sold for less than 19k have a look at the new civic prices,but if you loose the sat nav and say xenons and it could be 17k.

[DaveZS-X]

Interesting about the LSD... we've been asked about fitting an LSD (or ATB to be more precise) to a ZS 180. They guy has already had an ITG panel filter, Janspeed manifolds and sports cat. :D

could that be Mark b?
ithis is a new one i wonder were this idea has come from?

trackday ralph ,you have not answered any of my p.m's ,are you going ,do you know yet?

[Byron]

could that be Mark b?
i this is a new one i wonder were this idea has come from?



It could be Wak aswell .

[DaveZS-X]

didnt know wak had a full exhaust :) thinking about it ,mark has an open cone in wing doesnt he.:rolleyes:

[Byron]

didnt know wak had a full exhaust :) thinking about it ,mark has an open cone in wing doesnt he.:rolleyes:

I don't know what wak as got just an xpower backbox i think,i'm supprised he's not here yet .

[Ralph]

Its not Wak - he's just got the Janspeed duplex back box. We tried to sell him the sports cat, but he wouldn't be tempted! The guy that's asked about the ATB is a local yokel that doesn't visit the forums (as far as I know).

Actually, this was the second enquiry about an ATB. The first one was for an F. The cost of fitting the ATB put the guy off, though.

[fireengineer]

You all have forgot something. The 600kg of extra safety kit that all other manufacturers are adding to their cars.